Seagrave Apparatus 1930 - 1949

[wf33ret]

                                   Another view of the General Warren 1936 Seagrave





                                      Charles Beckwith Photo, Lloyd Collection

[Box 2565]

Lancaster, Ohio
1935 Seagrave
65' Aerial
#79200
First metal aerial built by Seagrave.  Fortunately, this piece of apparatus history has been saved and is on display at the Central Ohio Fire Museum in Columbus. You can see a photo of the aerial in its' current home in the Central Ohio Fire Museum topic.  Dan Martin photo.

[Box 2565]

Elko, Nevada
1941 Seagrave
750 GPM
#A 7640
Equipped with a squirrel-tail hard suction.
Photographer unknown.

Upper Sandusky, Ohio
1941 Seagrave
750 GPM
#A 8780
Steve Hagy photo.

[Box 2565]

Hamilton Twp., New Jersey
1941 Seagrave
750 GPM - Quad
#A 7395
Jack Robrecht photo.

Troy, Ohio
1945 Seagrave
750 GPM - 500 Tank (Tank bebuilt by United)
#C 5050   Model: 66 EB 7
Buckeye53 was only 26 or so when this was taken, but I'm pretty sure he hasn't actually aged based on the photo.
Steve Hagy photo.

[Buckeye 53]

Hamilton Twp., New Jersey
1941 Seagrave
750 GPM - Quad
#A 7395
Jack Robrecht photo.

Troy, Ohio
1945 Seagrave
750 GPM - 500 Tank (Tank bebuilt by United)
#C 5050   Model: 66 EB 7
Buckeye53 was only 26 or so when this was taken, but I'm pretty sure he hasn't actually aged based on
the photo.
Steve Hagy photo.

This "War Baby" originally had painted front bumper & headlights.  This rig hit a tree that had fallen into the road while it was responding to a fire.  It was rebuilt by Seagrave in the late 1960's and got chromed then.  The Pirsch peeking out is a 1969 85' aerial, hidden is a 1969 Sutphen / IH front mount, a 1974 Pirsch 1500/500 pumper, and the 1952 FWD's front end is showing. I made working fires on all these rigs. There is a 5th bay where the medic was.  The critic in me says that Box 2565 should have had me straighten the wheels a little more, had me get out of the rig since I was not original equipment, and closed the bay doors.  The things we have learned to do in 35 + years of taking pics.  BTW, this rig still survives.  When I have more time I'll tell you how the new owner got the Bell back

[Box 2565]

Easthampton MA
1930 Seagrave
600 GPM
#62560

Silverton OH
1930 Seagrave
600 GPM
#63235 
This style of rig was called the  “Seagrave Special”.  The rear suction intake usually gives them away.

[Box 2565]

Charleston SC  Engine 4
1930 Seagrave
750 GPM
#61440

Garwood NJ
1930 Seagrave
350 GPM - Quad
#61570

[MFDPhoto1]

Re; Elko, Nevada
      1941 Seagrave

Steve,

That is a very "unusual hook-up"...using the squirrel-tail on the rear suction.  Would you happen to  have a rear photo(s) showing the swivel, and/or how it was configured?  I also wonder if there was a valve at the pump panel or intake to cut it off....to prevent back flow when it was not in use, and to prevent a vacuum leak when using the side intakes during drafting?     

In my 69+ years, I don't think I have ever seen "squirrel-tail" hooked up to the rear suction on a Seagrave [or other] engine.  I notice that it is the only length of hard suction on the port side too.

Bob

[STILL INTERESTED]

you are assuming that the squirrel tail went to the rear suction.  More than likely it draped the tailboard and continued around to the right suction inlet giving you a 25' squirrel tail.  those inlets were valved with a wheel type butterfly to close off. if using the other side suction.

[MFDPhoto1]

Could very well be the case here...however, the 1945 [with rear a rear inlet] that MFD had...only had a brass "cap" that was on so tight...that it took three men and a strong boy to remove it.  I don't recall a "wheeled butterfly" gate-valve anywhere?

Also, I think it would be rather difficult for anyone to "ride=the-tailboard" on this truck, with the hose crossing and/or laying on it, and...to gain access to the booster reel that was probably just under the hose bed on this model. 

This was my precise reason for asking for a REAR photo, and/or someone that knows this truck.  

Thanks for the comment...

[Box 2565]

Could very well be the case here...however, the 1945 [with rear a rear inlet] that MFD had...only had a brass "cap" that was on so tight...that it took three men and a strong boy to remove it.  I don't recall a "wheeled butterfly" gate-valve anywhere?

Also, I think it would be rather difficult for anyone to "ride=the-tailboard" on this truck, with the hose crossing and/or laying on it, and...to gain access to the booster reel that was probably just under the hose bed on this model. 

This was my precise reason for asking for a REAR photo, and/or someone that knows this truck.  

Thanks for the comment...

I saw a picture of the rear end of this rig and my memory is that the hard sucton was connected to the rear suction intake.  This is a pretty unusual arrangement.  Wish I did have a photo!

[HmaximS]

Belmar NJ
Credit to original photographer

[FiremanRW]

Gatesville, TX VFD
1941 Seagrave 500 GPM
Serial #A 8860

[Box 2565]

Gatesville, TX VFD
194? Seagrave

1941 - Serial #A 8860 - 500 GPM
There weren't a lot of those rigs with the 3-man cab built and there aren't many survivors.  Nice catch!

[FiremanRW]

1941 - Serial #A 8860 - 500 GPM
There weren't a lot of those rigs with the 3-man cab built and there aren't many survivors.  Nice catch!
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Thank you for the information. I was told that the truck had been restored many years ago and is going in, sometime in the near future, for another restoration.